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post #1 of (permalink) Old 05-26-2017, 10:05 AM Thread Starter
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Hi folks
Im heading into elsay lake tomorrow june 27.
Does anyone know how the conditions are?
Im assuming a showshoe hike.
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Have you checked out the avalanche conditions ? Judging by the recent warming trend, they could be significant. You might want to take crampons and an ice axe. I've only been on the route once, and it was in the summer, but I recall a fairly steep section just after we left the main trail on Seymour. Daytime melting and nighttime freezing can leave a slippery surface this time of year.
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I'm assuming you mean May the 27th. You'll be trekking through a major avalanche prone area en-route to the lake. With these extreme temperatures you could be tempting fate. However I couldn't say what the snowpack is like around there and above right now.


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^^what they said. The trail traverses some major avy runouts, and the peaks above still had big cornices as of last weekend. The attached pic (taken from the air from last weekend's Seymour medical rescue) is of the area where the trail traverses the boulder field under 1stPump/Tim Jones Peak, after Wes' Staircase.

EDIT: sorry, don't know why it posted upside down, but you get the idea.

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Ryan, I just strained my neck. Do I send chiro bill to you or NSR?

Seriously speaking, even if I don't know conditions directly I thought the same when I saw the title of this thread - don't go there now.
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Thanks folks. Sounds like this is one for later in the summer.
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Has anyone been on this trail yet this summer. If so is there still snow?

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Would it be possible to do this hike (with snowshoes?) now? I've never been on this trail, I'm new to the area. I was wanting to do this overnighter this past summer, but the air advisories kept having me call if off.
I assume the steep sections would get even more technical with snow cover.
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Hi Brian. Welcome to Vancouver : )
My sense is that if you are asking the question, you probably already know the answer. I am wondering if you might enjoy it way more this summer unless you are very strong on your navigation and back country snow assessment skills.

The hike to the 1st Peak is great right now and you can camp anywhere north of Brockton Point. There are some really nice spots where you can enjoy the sunrise and sunset while having coffee/ warm tea : )

If you are going on via Old Buck, Perimeter Trail and the Bluffs, snowshoes might be nice (I was up to my calves in snow in some spots). If you are staying on the main trail from the parking lot at the resort to 1st Peak, I think you might have more fun with micro-spikes. When I was up on the weekend, there were rocky patches, slush and icey areas. For the last 1/2km and some spots on the way to the peak even spikes were overkill (trail runners with solid sticky rubber worked well).

http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/bcparks/exp...gs/mt_seymour/
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Would it be possible to do this hike (with snowshoes?) now? I've never been on this trail, I'm new to the area. I was wanting to do this overnighter this past summer, but the air advisories kept having me call if off.
I assume the steep sections would get even more technical with snow cover.
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Minimum gear would be crampons and an ice axe. I'd also take a rope, some ice screws and snow pickets.....I usually hike alone but would want a buddy for this one in the winter. Also be prepared to spend at least one the night out there. Do you have avy training ?
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Besides the avi-danger, Elsay Creek can be very difficult to cross when it gets going. Personally, I would not go out there alone during the winter months.
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Minimum gear would be crampons and an ice axe. I'd also take a rope, some ice screws and snow pickets.....I usually hike alone but would want a buddy for this one in the winter. Also be prepared to spend at least one the night out there. Do you have avy training ?
What he said ^


They have had to rescue people there in the winter and spring when the hikes have slid down the slipper slide slope. May seem benign at times but considerable danger for the ill prepared.

if you're not hiking you should be skiing
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