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Hello,

I've heard tell that Sky Pilot can be accessed from:

1. Shannon Creek FSR
2. Stawamus Indian FSR
3. Mountain Lake Hut/Utopia Lake

Predictions which will be the favoured access over the next few years? Thoughts?
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Reading the other thread unfortunately, I would have to say:

"4. Shannon Creek FSR via Gondola shortcut"

...since the 3D rendering looks like the top would land in the middle of nowhere not far above the road
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That thought occured to me too. Slog it while you can folks!

(To be honest, I wouldn't miss that road walk too badly)
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last time we were up there, the shannon creek was getting pretty overgrown. It needs a good clipping thats for sure. I'd like to try accessing the area via Stawamus FSR because it looks like a shorter distance on a map, but I know there's a lot there I can't see on a map. I've read of one party (on bivouac I believe) accessing the area from the Stawamus FSR on skiis but they did it as an overnighter.

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"4. Shannon Creek FSR via Gondola shortcut"

...since the 3D rendering looks like the top would land in the middle of nowhere not far above the road
It'll be interesting to see how the access changes:

http://www.seatoskygondola.com//wp-c...ine-Access.jpg


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Thanks for posting a link to that graphic, tu. It is most droll.

In particular, I like the mention that it will improve access to Goat Ridge, but conveniently places thumbnail pictures over that part of the map [)]

If they really intend to maintain the trail to Sky Pilot access, I say good on 'em, though I wonder what is in it for them; seems unprofitable.
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Thanks for posting a link to that graphic, tu. It is most droll.

In particular, I like the mention that it will improve access to Goat Ridge, but conveniently places thumbnail pictures over that part of the map [)]

If they really intend to maintain the trail to Sky Pilot access, I say good on 'em, though I wonder what is in it for them; seems unprofitable.
I think they are wisely trying to garner support from the climbing/mountaineering community... not sure if it is working though.
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I think it is a worthy pursuit, but I wonder if it'll actually happen once they've done the math. How many thousands of burgers will they have to sell in order to maintain that goodwill, etc.

Anyhoo...any other input on the access? I asked a couple of people at the BCMC meeting earlier this week about the Stawamus Indian FSR access, and noone seemed to think it was a stellar idea. I won't entirely let it go until I see it for myself but maybe I'll shelve the idea for now. I've had a pretty good look at the other two routes.
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I assume you mean the valley at around GR955992?

http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/gmap...e=off&label=on
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3. Mountain Lake Hut/Utopia Lake
From the BCMC trail off Furry creek main and through to the Mountain lake hut and beyond to Sky pilot works. Utopia lake route was a route up when the roads to the lakes ( Parklane and Utopia ) were intact. Extremely overgrown now.
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#3 is the most aesthetic approach (Furry Creek, Cyrtina Creek approach). #1 the quickest (especially with 4x4 and mountain bike).

Via Stawamus is bushy, but Habrich was done by that approach last year.

https://www.clubtread.com/sforum/topi...hTerms=habrich

Re. the next few years - if a gondola goes in it might help with things. Depends on the running times of the tram. I wonder if someone might try and build a trail a la Grouse Grind near it?

Furry might have limited access at times due to new logging near Cyrtina Creek.
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I assume you mean the valley at around GR955992?

http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/gmap...e=off&label=on
I have to admit ignorance on reading these new-fangled coordinates [:I]

Once I figured it out - yes, that looks about right.

Thanks brucew and simonc for input and the link to the Habrich TR.

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On our way to Mountain Lake Hut, we ran into a couple of retired BCMC members who skied Sheer back in a day accessing it through Britannia Creek. If Gor-tex has some hazmat functionality I'd like to see what remains of that trail coming up through through the old town of Mount Sheer and Utopia.
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quote:On our way to Mountain Lake Hut, we ran into a couple of retired BCMC members who skied Sheer back in a day accessing it through Britannia Creek. If Gor-tex has some hazmat functionality I'd like to see what remains of that trail coming up through through the old town of Mount Sheer and Utopia.
I did that route quite a few years ago now (mid 90's I think). There wasn't a trail beyond the end of the access road, and the best route (at the time) was straight up the creek! If I recall, I was out of the creek at some point before the old dam site and access beyond did improve. No worries about contamination, but I recall that the lower portion of the creek (along the access road) looked pretty bad.
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On our way to Mountain Lake Hut, we ran into a couple of retired BCMC members who skied Sheer back in a day accessing it through Britannia Creek. If Gor-tex has some hazmat functionality I'd like to see what remains of that trail coming up through through the old town of Mount Sheer and Utopia.
Have done that route twice in the last decade and, as alluded to, completely overgrown after Marmot Creek. Last part best done via Brit Creekbed as there is virtually no trace of the old road. Slogfest, don't wear shorts, etc..!
The trashed dam (cause of 1991 Britannia Beach flood) at Park Lane Lake is a pretty neat sight.

Will post pics once unearthed.

There is/was supposedly an access route to Sky Pilot via Marmot Creek drainage at one point also.

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