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post #1 of (permalink) Old 02-20-2009, 04:32 PM Thread Starter
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To the Skiers and Snowboarders who frequent Glacier National Park - Rogers Pass.

Our access is being restricted!

The area we often ski consists of 11 Permit Areas. These are areas that are actively controlled for avalanche hazards impacting the road. During times of avalanche control these areas are closed to skier traffic. Also in these areas are Rail Lines owned by Canadian Pacific Railway which sees upwards of 40 trains per day.

The permit process was implemented in 1996. Five of these eleven permit areas include CP Rail Private property. Generally users have accessed these areas without incident. In recent years with the increase in numbers of users more incidents/violations have occurred. These incidents include one situation where users were on the tracks/trestle bridge and the train was forced to stop suddenly, thus creating a serious safety issue. These recent events have forced CP Rail to start fining trespassers on their land.

This position prevents Glacier National Park from issuing permits to access the areas that include CP Rail Private property.

What does this mean?

You can no longer ski or ride in the following areas - Shaughnessy, Tupper, Ross Peak, Smart and Fortitude, also crossing into Flat Creek is an infraction. Because of the actions of a few users Glacier National Park can no longer issue permits for 5 of the 11 permit areas - this cuts out a lot of skiable terrain.

What can we do about it?

Please respond to one of the methods of communication below - Preferably send an email or go to the Info Session in Revelstoke or Golden.

email [email protected]

call the Parks Canada office in Revelstoke at 250-837-7500
stop in at the Rogers Pass Discovery Centre
go to our WiKi site: http://storycatcher.wetpaint.com/?t=anon

Also, if you are in the Revelstoke or Golden area attend one of the evening sessions;

February 23rd: Revelstoke Community Centre
McPherson room
7:00 pm
600 Campbell Avenue
Revelstoke BC Canada V0E 2S0
(250) 837-9351

February 24th: Golden Civic Centre
7:00 pm
810 9th Street North RR 2
Golden, BC V0A 1H2
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(250) 344-2606


When you contact the above present possible solutions such as:

1. Implementation of pedestrian crossings, overpasses or tunnels
2. Cut trail in the woods to bypass rail access or ensure there is only one route crossing/paralleling rail tracks
3. Self police to ensure all users respect private property
4. Increase parking areas for access to limit exposure to private property
5. More education from Rogers Pass Discovery Center to ensure users know where they are going and where they can travel safely
6. Recreationalist will not enter private CP Rail lands to park their vehicles

This may also be a good opportunity for us, as users, to ask Parks Canada about the Permit process itself.

Why are these areas sometimes closed for extended times for no apparent reason?
Can reasons be provided for these closures?
These closures are there for Avalanche control. Sometimes these areas remain closed even when no control is occurring. Why is that?

Currently the five permit areas discussed above will remain closed until solutions are in place and the problems are resolved.

In conclusion Rogers Pass is here for you to discover and enjoy! Please express your concerns through the above opportunities to ensure we will be able to access this area for years to come!

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post #2 of (permalink) Old 02-20-2009, 11:11 PM
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Where can I get more info about the infractions that caused this? When did/does this go into effect? Any other info? I'd like to inform myself a bit before I write them about my opinion and plea for open access.
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More info here - http://www.pc.gc.ca/apps/scond/Cond_...5&oPark=100205

There is a number you can call in Revelstoke.

Glacier National Park of Canada


Information Update:

Issued 2/11/2009 (DD/MM/YYYY)

Time 8:30:45

Canadian Pacific and Parks Canada are working together to address a railway trespass issue. This concerns the safety of visitors and staff in some Winter Restricted Areas in Glacier National Park. The issue came to light as a result of the public campaign to address the recent increased number of violations of the Winter Permit System.



At this time Parks Canada will not issue Winter Permits for the five Winter Restricted Areas that involve crossing Canadian Pacific property. They are: Fortitude, Mount Smart, Mount Shaughnessy, Ross Peak and Tupper Winter Restricted Areas. This situation may last until the end of the 2008/09 Winter Permit System season.



This is a temporary measure, and Parks Canada will work with CP and users to explore possible solutions. Those interested are asked to call the Parks Canada office in Revelstoke at 250-837-7500, visit the Rogers Pass Discovery Centre, or

email [email protected].

On-line forum: www.storycatcher.wetpaint.com

Evening presentation and discussion:

Revelstoke Community Centre, Feb 23, 7 pm

Golden Civic Centre, Feb 24, 7 pm



We are confident that solutions can be found by working together.



Parks Canada will continue to issue Winter Permits for the remaining six Winter Restricted Areas when avalanche control is not anticipated: Mt. Macdonald, Hermit, Loop Creek, Avalanche, Cheops, and Camp West. The issuing of a winter permit for entry into these areas is not an indication of snow pack stability.



For today`s daily avalanche bulletin, please go to: http://www.pc.gc.ca/apps/psb/index_E...qava_park_id=3



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