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post #23 of (permalink) Old 09-11-2012, 01:15 PM
johngenx
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I agree tu. I don't see why it's considered so nasty to point out that the two terms together are not really in the standard climbing lexicon.

I will also reiterate my earlier thought and note that most beginner climbers don't need as much gear as perhaps they think. On a rope team of three, I assume at least one, if not two, of the individuals will be quite experienced. Experienced folks tend to already own a rope (or a few) and other group gear they'd be willing to share.

Okay, I appreciate if someone shows up with a rope, especially one that's about to be trod on by crampons, but seriously, offering to buy dinner 'cause we used my rope works well too.

The most versatile rope you can buy is a 60 or 70M single, 10mm-ish dry treated rope.
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