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post #31 of (permalink) Old 12-18-2003, 04:49 PM
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I don't know much about the area of the 2nd avalanche area but I've had the impression that the Artists Point area that gets a lot of traffic. I've skied up there once myself.

Is it considered an area of high avalanche danger?

Also if they were trapped overnight, was there a search out for them? You know, the rule about letting someone know where you are going and when you expect to be back. Finally you mentioned that none of them were carrying any avalanche gear. Would that have made a difference? How? - yea, yea, should have gone to your winter camping presentation HB :-)
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post #32 of (permalink) Old 12-18-2003, 05:58 PM Thread Starter
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Funny how those reports never get the facts completely straight.


Yep, that area can be heavily used in the winter but has all the makings of a very hazardous area...much of it is east facing slopes on the leeward side of some valleys which normally produce a fair bit of wind. Most of the slopes are 35-40 degrees, above the treeline with no anchoring, and lastly known to get heavy snowfalls.


There was no search for those people made until two skiers discovered the young man calling for help the next morning. The SAR people had told me later that day, had they been carrying those little FRS radios(channel 9 or 11), they could have been rescued soon after it happened. If they had been wearing avalanche transievers and carrying shovels etc., the fellow who dug himself out may have been able to dig out both of the others and the one girl may not have died.

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So, HB and Tundra, can you (or will you) tell us the three most important things you learned in your course?

Of course, we all learned a lot from your report of the accident, don't go out unprepared, let some one know where you are going, do you really want to be on an open windloaded 30 plus degree slope after a foot or more of new snow (etc., etc., etc.)
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post #34 of (permalink) Old 12-20-2003, 03:03 AM Thread Starter
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I learned a more systematic way to assess conditions before heading out, the proper way to conduct a search of a slide, and how to use both digital and analog transievers by various methods.

Much of the course was stuff I have picked up from other sources and regurgitated in another form. Some of our material we learned was geographically specific for the Mt. Baker area. It's all good! [8D]

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The avalanche story in todays Seattle Times...

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...lanche23m.html

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wow, two years have passed since this story.

tread carefully in the backcountry this weekend (and every weekend) everyone
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Wow, until your post I had not seen the red 2004

One question, is FRS channnel 9 and/or 11 used to listened to by SAR in case of trouble? Did not know that, useful info

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post #38 of (permalink) Old 12-14-2006, 01:34 PM
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Good question Bas. I tryed to find an answer for that one last year from some people I know at SAR and never really did get an answer one wway or the other.
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That's a fine old thread to re-tread!

When your shipmates are in trouble, you help. That's all.

If you're still out there, HB and Tundra, belated kudos.

To the rest of you, be safe.

Aaron.
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Good question Bas. I tryed to find an answer for that one last year from some people I know at SAR and never really did get an answer one wway or the other.
I think there is one or two SAR people around here. SARJunkie should be one, I guess :-) I'll PM him to have a look at this thread. Any other SAR people?

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Interesting that I'm back down there exactly three years later to the day. The weather looked just as sketchy as it did back then so we headed to a lower risk destination...Damfino/Canyon Creek.
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Interesting that I'm back down there exactly three years later to the day. The weather looked just as sketchy as it did back then so we headed to a lower risk destination...Damfino/Canyon Creek.
Very interesting indeed, you can look 3 years back by viewing the report. Almost a little like stepping back in time ..

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What a terrifying and gripping story. Very real, even today.
All the "what if's " pop up.

Good on the snowshoers for beeing there.

Me too, Toonces

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wow... i've been "talking" about doing an avalance course but have been putting it off... thanks for sharing, because your story just put it back to the top of the list for the new year.

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