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post #1 of (permalink) Old 09-28-2015, 01:53 PM Thread Starter
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We did a few hikes in the Pemberton area including trying to get to Valentine Lake from the 103 hikes book. The mileage indicted in the 103 hikes book to the forest road is way off. It gives a distance of 14.5km to the Spetch Creek FSR from the traffic lights a the Petro Canada station in Pemberton. It is actually 20km to the Spetch Creek FSR. However the bridge on the FSR is gone at Spetch Creek and there is no way to get a vehicle across. We back tracked a little to continue up the logging road hoping that this was going to go up and around where the bridge was washed out and rejoin the road we needed. The logging road continues for about another 1.5km then ends at a logging clear cut area. No point in heading up there unless you were able to bring a couple of bikes with you and carry them over the creek or add the distance on to the hike and start your day at the creek.
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Darn! That bridge washed out a few years ago and then was replaced. It's a major bummer to hear that it has washed out again. Do you have any pictures of the washout or GPS coordinates of the washout location?
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I don't have pictures of the washout but the guy I went with may have. I am just waiting for him to post to Flickr. The washout was about 3-4km in from the highway. There are no signs of a bridge at all so they my be in the process of rebuilding, lots of fresh boulder and rock placement on either side.
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I don't have pictures of the washout but the guy I went with may have. I am just waiting for him to post to Flickr. The washout was about 3-4km in from the highway. There are no signs of a bridge at all so they my be in the process of rebuilding, lots of fresh boulder and rock placement on either side.
That sounds like the spot...

The road is a sharp right (greater than 90 degrees) from the highway. It then meanders flat for a while, passing a small building (hydro or Telus I think) and then turns left. It passes under the powerlines and climbs steeply up a rough section. There is a fork going off to the left. If you stay on the correct road it then turns right and levels off. The bridge is shortly after that point (about 3-4km from the highway.)

That creek is subject to debris flow and it's not entirely surprising that the bridge washed out again given the huge rains in the past few weeks that caused a number of landslides in that area. They fixed it last time so hopefully they will try to fix it again.
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Hi everyone,


After reading the message to the effect that the Valentine Lake is no longer accessible because of a washout, I have contacted Mr. Jones from the First Nation Lil'wat and he has advised the logging company. They told Mr. Jones that they will reopen the road soon. I am the mother of Jonathan who went missing in September 2010 at Valentine Lake, with his girlfriend. Please, keep your eyes opened. Thank you and made beautiful hikes.
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Does anyone have any recent info on the Spetch Creek fsr? I was thinking of taking a drive up there soon and ran across this thread saying the bridge is out again. Has it been replaced for 2016?

By the way, this is my first post here. I've found CT to be a great resource over the years even though I'm mainly a rockclimber. Hopefully I can find some scrambling partners here for some upcoming trips, particularly once the black flies settle down a bit. They are terrible this year.
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Does anyone have any recent info on the Spetch Creek fsr? I was thinking of taking a drive up there soon and ran across this thread saying the bridge is out again. Has it been replaced for 2016?

By the way, this is my first post here. I've found CT to be a great resource over the years even though I'm mainly a rockclimber. Hopefully I can find some scrambling partners here for some upcoming trips, particularly once the black flies settle down a bit. They are terrible this year.
I have similar plans for later this year and posted a similar question in Dane's TR to Saxifrage, which he replied to here:
https://forums.clubtread.com/27-briti...22-2016-a.html
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As of a couple weeks ago, the start of the Spetch FSR has a hand-painted plywood sign announcing that it is in fact the Spetch Creek FSR. This is better than when it was a random gravel road heading off with no marking.
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I'm standing on the summit of saxifrage mountain right now so road is good as of today. There are a few biggish waterbars that might stop a low car, but with a good spotter most should make the trailhead. If your concerned about clearance, maybe bring a few short pieces of lumber to stack in the ditches and drive over, but place them cross ways to your tires.

Also the road continues past the trailhead now. The trailhead is marked with a hubcap and some flagging and a new bridge can be seen just up the road from the parking.

Both scrambles are awesome.
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I have similar plans for later this year and posted a similar question in Dane's TR to Saxifrage, which he replied to here:
https://forums.clubtread.com/27-briti...22-2016-a.html
Thanks very much, I obviously missed that TR somehow. That's great info.

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I'm standing on the summit of saxifrage mountain right now so road is good as of today. There are a few biggish waterbars that might stop a low car, but with a good spotter most should make the trailhead. If your concerned about clearance, maybe bring a few short pieces of lumber to stack in the ditches and drive over, but place them cross ways to your tires.

Also the road continues past the trailhead now. The trailhead is marked with a hubcap and some flagging and a new bridge can be seen just up the road from the parking.

Both scrambles are awesome.
Well that's pretty handy to hear from someone who is actually standing on top of one of the scrambles I wanted to do. I have a 4x4 so no worries about clearance. My main worries are excessive pinstriping. I was up the East Hope Creek fsr last weekend and my truck looks like it went through a razor blade-equipped car wash.
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Well that's pretty handy to hear from someone who is actually standing on top of one of the scrambles I wanted to do. I have a 4x4 so no worries about clearance. My main worries are excessive pinstriping. I was up the East Hope Creek fsr last weekend and my truck looks like it went through a razor blade-equipped car wash.
no need to worry about Bc pinstriping on this road. If you rub a bush you'll be about 20' off the road.
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We walked 6k up the forest road today b/c my car couldn't make it. The logging activity seems to have exploded and the trail has a piece of marking tape over it and a sign that says, "trail closed". I took a photo, but it's still on my phone. We weren't sure if this is permanent - that the trail is gone due to logging - or just temporary while it's being actively logged. Beautiful walk up the road, though. No complaints there.

To Jonathan's mother, the sign about your son and Rachael's disappearance is still up by the bridge crossing the creek. I am so sorry for your heartache. We did not travel up the trail as by the time we walked the forest road, we were out of time. We will keep our eyes peeled when we go back with more time. My heart sends healing to yours.
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We walked 6k up the forest road today b/c my car couldn't make it. The logging activity seems to have exploded and the trail has a piece of marking tape over it and a sign that says, "trail closed". I took a photo, but it's still on my phone. We weren't sure if this is permanent - that the trail is gone due to logging - or just temporary while it's being actively logged. Beautiful walk up the road, though. No complaints there.

To Jonathan's mother, the sign about your son and Rachael's disappearance is still up by the bridge crossing the creek. I am so sorry for your heartache. We did not travel up the trail as by the time we walked the forest road, we were out of time. We will keep our eyes peeled when we go back with more time. My heart sends healing to yours.

Definitely one of the more strange disappearances that come to mind, along with the solo hiker up Baby Munday. Glad the sign is still up and it keeps people vigilant who are hiking in the area.
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