Off the Beaten Path
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: AB, Canada.
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quote:Originally posted by seboyle
As more and more info comes out we get a better idea of what happened. You could maybe criticise them for being too far apart, maybe (??) also for not making enough noise in the circumstances (creek, rain, etc.) but really... sometimes shit happens.
I thought this link in the paper was interesting:
http://www.alaskadispatch.com/articl...tacks?page=0,0
As more and more info comes out we get a better idea of what happened. You could maybe criticise them for being too far apart, maybe (??) also for not making enough noise in the circumstances (creek, rain, etc.) but really... sometimes shit happens.
I thought this link in the paper was interesting:
http://www.alaskadispatch.com/articl...tacks?page=0,0
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Abbotsford, B.C., Canada.
Interest: Hiking, Snowshoeing, and Photography. Enjoying the outdoors fresh air and fitness experience.
Posts: 17,917
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quote:Originally posted by sixer
I bought my spray at MEC and they sell holsters for 4 bucks and less that fit on any belt-and I keep it there if I'm anywhere I think I might need it. It's really easily reached on my belt by my right hand. And I practised drawing it/releasing the safety more than a few times at home, which really helps in terms of confidence using it. I've had mine out of the holster too and ready on a few occasions when we were near creeks surrounded by berries and fresh scat-just in case. So far have not needed to use it thank goodness! But I would recommend the holsters, as the spray is useless in a pack.
It's kinda fun to see the puzzled look on the faces of the neighbours when practising drawing bear spray in the backyard...
I bought my spray at MEC and they sell holsters for 4 bucks and less that fit on any belt-and I keep it there if I'm anywhere I think I might need it. It's really easily reached on my belt by my right hand. And I practised drawing it/releasing the safety more than a few times at home, which really helps in terms of confidence using it. I've had mine out of the holster too and ready on a few occasions when we were near creeks surrounded by berries and fresh scat-just in case. So far have not needed to use it thank goodness! But I would recommend the holsters, as the spray is useless in a pack.
It's kinda fun to see the puzzled look on the faces of the neighbours when practising drawing bear spray in the backyard...
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High on the Mountain Top
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: , , Canada.
Posts: 2,426
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quote:Originally posted by TheClap
If you can try to find a way to integrate the holster onto your belt or a cargo pocket so that anytime you take your pack off (lunch, rest break etc.) the canister stays with you.
If you can try to find a way to integrate the holster onto your belt or a cargo pocket so that anytime you take your pack off (lunch, rest break etc.) the canister stays with you.
Although I admit to not doing it every time I leave my pack sitting somewhere for a moment, in bear country the carbiner lets me easily take the can off the pack and clip it to my belt if I'm wandering around at a back-country campsite, or heading for my tent at night.
As a matter of inerest, I just finished a long trip with a woman who was equipped with a new can. It was only at the end that I noticed she had taken off the white (permanent) trigger loop, and left on the yellow one marked 'remove after purchase'.
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Scaling New Heights
Join Date: May 2008
Location: fort st john, b.c., Canada.
Posts: 87
carry spray before bangers.
Headed for the Mountains
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
Posts: 299
No point second guessing what happened. It's Alaska. Sh!t happens. They live to tell the tale.
Hey guys. You survived. You pass. A+.
oh and enough with the BFK jokes...I mean it's cute in that macho, I-can-do-anything-and-nothing-can-ever-harm-me delusional kind of way but fact is if there was a BFK employed in this case all you'd have is 2+ dead teenagers not 2+ almost-dead teenagers. And before you come back with an whole buch of, "you don't know what yer talkin' 'bout", stuff, please list for me all the large preditors you've taken down with your BFK.
That's right: zero.
Hey guys. You survived. You pass. A+.
oh and enough with the BFK jokes...I mean it's cute in that macho, I-can-do-anything-and-nothing-can-ever-harm-me delusional kind of way but fact is if there was a BFK employed in this case all you'd have is 2+ dead teenagers not 2+ almost-dead teenagers. And before you come back with an whole buch of, "you don't know what yer talkin' 'bout", stuff, please list for me all the large preditors you've taken down with your BFK.
That's right: zero.
Scaling New Heights
Join Date: May 2008
Location: fort st john, b.c., Canada.
Posts: 87
actually there are recorded instances where the bfk has saved lives. the last one that comes to mind was near grand prairie about 3 years ago where a man was attacked and killed a grizzly with a fold out lockblade. yes it was a lucky thrust to the juglar vein , but luck is okay when being mauled.
High on the Mountain Top
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: , , Canada.
Posts: 2,426
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quote:Originally posted by northernbc
actually there are recorded instances where the bfk has saved lives. the last one that comes to mind was near grand prairie about 3 years ago where a man was attacked and killed a grizzly with a fold out lockblade. yes it was a lucky thrust to the juglar vein , but luck is okay when being mauled.
actually there are recorded instances where the bfk has saved lives. the last one that comes to mind was near grand prairie about 3 years ago where a man was attacked and killed a grizzly with a fold out lockblade. yes it was a lucky thrust to the juglar vein , but luck is okay when being mauled.
Off the Beaten Path
Join Date: May 2010
Location: , , .
Posts: 544
I might have shanked a cougar or two in my day 
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quote:Originally posted by Release
No point second guessing what happened. It's Alaska. Sh!t happens. They live to tell the tale.
Hey guys. You survived. You pass. A+.
oh and enough with the BFK jokes...I mean it's cute in that macho, I-can-do-anything-and-nothing-can-ever-harm-me delusional kind of way but fact is if there was a BFK employed in this case all you'd have is 2+ dead teenagers not 2+ almost-dead teenagers. And before you come back with an whole buch of, "you don't know what yer talkin' 'bout", stuff, please list for me all the large preditors you've taken down with your BFK.
That's right: zero.
No point second guessing what happened. It's Alaska. Sh!t happens. They live to tell the tale.
Hey guys. You survived. You pass. A+.
oh and enough with the BFK jokes...I mean it's cute in that macho, I-can-do-anything-and-nothing-can-ever-harm-me delusional kind of way but fact is if there was a BFK employed in this case all you'd have is 2+ dead teenagers not 2+ almost-dead teenagers. And before you come back with an whole buch of, "you don't know what yer talkin' 'bout", stuff, please list for me all the large preditors you've taken down with your BFK.
That's right: zero.
High on the Mountain Top
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: in da bush, alberta, Canada.
Interest: playing guitar,drums
fly-fishing,hiking,scrambling,mountaineering
Posts: 1,072
now all we need is another couple thousand mauling deaths,that will even things out between us and the bears.
Scaling New Heights
Join Date: May 2008
Location: fort st john, b.c., Canada.
Posts: 87
i agree with you peter, bear spray first then the bfk. if you do get grabbed it is better to have one than not. i will question your 95% i do not believe it is quite that high maybe 80% but i could be wrong the study i had read is getting older know.
Headed for the Mountains
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
Posts: 299
Ok fine. I'm a believer now. BFK all da way.
Summit Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Winnemucca, NV
Interest: Outward bound author of the Seinfeld thread who builds his own snowshoes
Posts: 3,332
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quote:Originally posted by Rachelo
The problem is of not having readied it until you saw the bear. When you get a can of bear spray, you need to remove the first tie, and get it in some sort of holder that you can access quickly.
Like those above, mine's just a pulll away.
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quote:Originally posted by Steventy
We saw a bear once and my friend needed to ready a can of bear spray for the first time. It feels like it took 30 seconds and he almost sprayed us in the process. By the time we had readied our defenses, the bear was gone.
We saw a bear once and my friend needed to ready a can of bear spray for the first time. It feels like it took 30 seconds and he almost sprayed us in the process. By the time we had readied our defenses, the bear was gone.
Like those above, mine's just a pulll away.
Granted, I would feel a lot safer with a 12-gauge, but she doesn't feel those are a good idea. Damn hippies should stay out of the bush when I've got work to do.
High on the Mountain Top
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: , , Canada.
Posts: 2,426
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quote:Originally posted by northernbc
i agree with you peter, bear spray first then the bfk. if you do get grabbed it is better to have one than not. i will question your 95% i do not believe it is quite that high maybe 80% but i could be wrong the study i had read is getting older know.
i agree with you peter, bear spray first then the bfk. if you do get grabbed it is better to have one than not. i will question your 95% i do not believe it is quite that high maybe 80% but i could be wrong the study i had read is getting older know.
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