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post #1 of (permalink) Old 08-06-2003, 12:33 AM Thread Starter
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I ran across something interesting today.A new report/ study has been done that shows if you drink coffee before exercising it changes the body's metabolism so that instead of it burning carbohydrates for energy it draws on fat cells and burns them .This only works if you are exercising or hiking. So for me my six pack is slowly turning into a keg ... Starbucks will be seeing more of me BEFORE my next hiking trip. Wonder how the bears will react when I'm vibrating down the trail yelling at them


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Just FTI. Coffee is a dehydrant. Be careful.

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I also heard that about coffee, one cup, about 45mins before the workout.

Be interesting to know if it works..

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Just FTI. Coffee is a dehydrant. Be careful.

You mean diuretic . With all the water I drink on the trail I don't think it would be a problem.Thanks

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Dehydrant? LOL! Yes, diuretic is what I meant.

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There have been many interesting articles that I have come across in regard to coffee. First coffee is a diuretic that stimulate the body metabolism.

Professional athletes have been using it to raise their working heart rate so they can get more juice out of their training session. On the other hand,it tends to increase the output of urine(ie.sodium and water) from the body which result in lower level of performance.

To conclude, caffeine will provide an elevated level of performance in the short term but a lower level in the long term. You might be as high as a kite at the start but you will bottom out.

To answer your quesion, I think the study was poorly designed and incorrected. To burn fat you have to rise your heart rate to a certain level and keep it there for a certain period of time. Also, nutrient is a huge favor in term of body fat reduction. Try to reduce your sugar and flour intake and tell me what happen in two weeks. Best of luck.



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Check out the link and see what you think. I don't really have a weight problem , however I did find this info interesting.
http://www.myfit.ca/archives/viewana...plements&ID=18

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Caffeine is a powerful drug and there is mixed but reasonable evidence that it is ergogenic and enhances endurance exercise capacity. It is a diuretic but clinically and functionally significant dehydration due to this is unlikely to occur. It certainly influences fat metabolism but the benefits of this with increased energy production from fat and subsequent glycogen sparing is likely over stated. Let me know if you want a boring list of references. On a practical level there is great individual variation regarding tolerance and perceived benefit.



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Interesting article about caffeine, I must said. I tend to agree with Tad Tired's augment where caffeine jack your body metabolism up and the overstated point of fat usage. The human body during aerobic exercise tends to burn up glucose and glycogen first then it gets at the fat reserve.

That is why when we get up in the morning and do a heavy training session without eating something, you will feel The Bonk.

Hiker , I am sure you do not have a weight problem if you have done the west coast trail and Olympic Coast trail. Both are physically demanding in my book!!!

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Uh, here's a radical idea. Why don't you (as in a generic you) just go out an exercise a normal? Why worry about caffeine and all that other associated jazz? For the average weekend warrior types, which lets face it, that's what we are, whether or not you intake caffeine/coffee isn't going to make a heck of a lot of a difference.

I mean unless you're competiting with Hiking_Nut to be fastest person to climb up the Lions, what's the big deal about shaving off 1/10th of a second on your hike?

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I agree completely. These effects can be shown in groups but for any given individual the effects are going to be hard to prove especially for something like hiking. The only good reason to drink coffee is that you like it.

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I agree with you about the hiking. I'm not too worried about shaving my times off on the hills. I never have been one to race up to the top, for me it's the journey that's fun and the summit is the bonus. I charge around enough at work so for me hiking is low stress relaxation. “ Ya even slogging up the Lions in the rain”
I was more interested in the coffee thing for my work outs. I'm older than most of you guys and as we all know when you age you loose muscle mass if you don't keep working at it. My job requires strength, stamina, and good balance so it helps to keep me in shape as well. The last few days I have been using the coffee along with Creatine Monohydrate. I'm finding my sets are lasting longer and recovery time is much quicker.
I should add I'm not benching 200lbs but I am doing enough to challenge my body. You can build muscle but as the joints and ligaments age they start to give you hell when you over do it. I only want to keep toned and nothing more and for me this seems to be working well.
It's a funny thing with all this talk about fitness. I was taking some friends out on a hike. They were all 20 years younger them me, and I had to stop and wait several times for them. Out of no where we get passed by a guy in his 70's going like hell. “Hiking Nut's Dad … I wondered?” I caught him near the top at a viewpoint and started talking to him. Seems he had been doing this all his life. Nothing but hiking for a work-out! Man was the guy in shape. He told me he had stroke a few years back and the doctors said his hiking days were over. “Uh huh … I'll send you pictures when I get better.”…. And he did!
Living proof of a positive mental attitude. So it is with weight reduction, back problems or slogging up a rough trail.
Thanks for the input guys.



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I recommend to everyone:start the day with a fine black cup of coffee ,with a generous amount of the finest Calvados Brandy mixed in.
This sort of hot beverage at the beginning of the day, will start your blood circulating and should give you the right attitude for the day.
Don't worry be Happy, Life is great I showed up! I can do it etc.

Most people contaminate a good cup of coffee with milk,sugar, cream or
chemical things.
Calvados is clear and pure , made of the finest apple brandies and is recognised as a great classic from Normandy,France.
It combines youthful strength with the subtle flavour of apple.(your first fruit group for the day)

I think the study is flawed,it could not have included any of the many over 70 year old Alpenists from the Austrian,German,Swiss,Italian and French Alpine Region.

I love this Country !!!!!!!!!!!!


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Living proof of a positive mental attitude. So it is with weight reduction, back problems or slogging up a rough trail.
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Thanks for the words of wisdom Russ. What is Creatine Monohydrate?

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