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post #1 of (permalink) Old 01-14-2015, 03:18 AM Thread Starter
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This will (I HOPE!) be my last post on here for a long time...anyways, I bought my jacket (Marmot Minimalist) and I'm in the middle of (hopefully) securing a TarpTent Double Rainbow from Craigslist. One thing I am wondering is if I need a light insulating top, too, for the early mornings, the nights around camp and to complement my sleeping bag if it's too cold. Any suggestions? I'm kind of afraid of bringing down because I don't want to get it wet.

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I would personally bring down for a warmer sleep and cold evenings around camp. As long as you're not wearing it while hiking you should be able to keep it dry without difficulty.
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Arcteryx Atom LT is coreloft, not down so will stay warm even if it gets wet. Goto jacket for many people.

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The only problem with down is that I might use it as a midlayer in the winter while hiking, so that would prove to be an issue. As for the Arc'Teryx Atom LT, would it be too warm? I'm expecting to use it in temperatures up to about 16 or so Celsius.

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A down jacket is not a suitable midlayer for hiking.

But a big puffy down jacket is always a good idea for overnight or prolonged trips in the event of an emergency. If something happens to you or someone you come across,, keeping warm is often a huge challenge, and a down jacket is light and compressible.
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I use the North Face ThermoBall lightweight jacket, equivalent to 600 down.
Very warm jacket and compresses down to nothing, keeps you warm even if it gets wet.

http://www.backcountry.com/the-north...F00V3-MONBLA-M
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Best to use a 100 wt fleece if actually hiking under a rain jacket (in the rain).

Around camp and even on the WCT, bring a lightweight down sweater. Warmer than comparable synthetic and much lighter (shoot for 10oz or less).
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Arcteryx Atom LT is coreloft, not down so will stay warm even if it gets wet. Goto jacket for many people.
Actually, this isn't quite true.

If synthetic fill gets soaked, it does not keep you warm. It is just that in comparison to down, the entire insulation doesn't collapse if soaked so there is a bit more conductive resistance. You would still likely be cold. Try wearing your jacket in the shower if you don't believe me.

Most surprising is that down will actually dry faster than synthetics in similarly warm conditions. And of course, down fill lasts years and synthetic fill begins to degrade almost immediately after being produced.

Moral: just don't get your down filled garments soaked.
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Larry, I was considering the Thermoball for a while but turned away from it because I thought it'd be too warm for 15 degrees. Is it too warm?
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A down jacket is not a suitable midlayer for hiking.
That does depend on the temperature and one's sweat-ability. I have hiked (winter) wearing a down sweater. One time I had a primaloft jacket under a light down jacket (it was cold and I was cold and we weren't moving fast). Of course, hiking the WCT wearing down is a different matter. I would wear some sort of fleece and wool instead.
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A stanfields grey wooly top is a great addition to warmer weather gear, they are relatively cheap, tough as nails, and make a great layer under a rain coat. And if you're ever sitting around a campfire, they don't get readily damaged by sparks!
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Larry, I was considering the Thermoball for a while but turned away from it because I thought it'd be too warm for 15 degrees. Is it too warm?
Personally, if your wearing it and hiking, it would be too warm for me, at 15 C but i`m like a human furnace, but for sitting around camp or for when I reach a peak and feel a chill, or colder conditions, its a great jacket.
At about 12 oz.
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I have a fleece jacket and a long-slong-sleeved underarmour top. Would either of these work better (or as good as) an insulating top for the West Coast Trail?
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I wear a fleece jacket(with full pit zips) and have for years, my North Face is only for backup(or colder conditions), when hiking the fleece is fine because of the heat I create, but once you stop and have been sweating, you cool off rather fast.
The fleece will not be as warm as the insulated jacket, but your destination is not as important as the conditions there. I have not done the WCT, choosing your apparel is like choosing your sleeping bag, very subjective, depending on body type. Better to be too warm then not warm enough.
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I'm big on layers (and will be doing the WCT this year as well). I normally bring the following and layer up/down as needed. It's served me well across spring, summer and fall


Icebreaker 200 base layer (keeps you warm, even when soaked through)
Tek shirt (1 short sleeve, 1 long)
Patagonia nano puff jacket (its synthetic so I don't have to worry as much about it getting wet, but it still compresses down to nothing)
Mountain Hardware rain shell


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