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post #1 of (permalink) Old 02-21-2014, 10:45 AM Thread Starter
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So I just got my voting pamphlet in the mail this morning.

There are 14 candidates - of those 8 are 'recommended' by MEC as per last year's Special Resolution 1. This resolution has been discussed at length previously on CT. Rather than the usual method of listing election candidates in alphabetical order, the 'recommended' candidates are listed first, with the ones MEC management doesn't like being relegated to the rear.

There is something that makes me quite uncomfortable about being officially encouraged to cast my vote for the candidates selected by management.

It seems that the whole election itself is just there to present a Kafkaesque veneer of legitimacy of a predetermined selection, like one of those old communist eastern bloc rigged elections where the results are accidentally announced prior to election day!

Anyway - I think on the basis of the above I'm going to vote only for the candidates who aren't on the officially sanctioned 'recommended' list.

What do others think?
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So I just got my voting pamphlet in the mail this morning.

Anyway - I think on the basis of the above I'm going to vote only for the candidates who aren't on the officially sanctioned 'recommended' list.

What do others think?
I voted AGAINST every one of the MEC board-recommended special resolutions last year. However, the sheep followed blindly and they were approved handily. No surprise.
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You do realize there is nothing wrong with campaigning for one's own interest? If you want to follow their lead (or after gathering information choose another path),it's still a democratic system of voting. But to just blindly avoid anyone endorsed by the current executive would be the worst form of blind following the blind.
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But to just blindly avoid anyone endorsed by the current executive would be the worst form of blind following the blind.
This. I recommend you vote for the candidates you, upon review, think will lead the Coop in the matter you desire.
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Is there any way for us to find out how many (if any) people applied but were outright rejected?
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Steventy, I think the answer to your question is here:

"Twenty-seven nominations were submitted. Eight were then recommended by the Board. Sixteen were to be included on the ballot but not recommended (ten subsequently withdrew their candidacy). Two were rejected as they did not meet the minimum qualifications (experience sitting on a board or senior management in a complex organization). One was rejected due to a conflict of interest."

See http://www.mec.ca/AST/ContentPrimary...ominations.jsp
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Thanks bluesky. I did not see that but it provides the answer I was curious about.
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Some candidates "recommended" and others not, hmmmmm
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Some RECOMMENDED are more RECOMMENDED than others. Strange alphabet.

Interesting how there are more recommended candidates than open slots.
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Some RECOMMENDED are more RECOMMENDED than others. Strange alphabet.

Interesting how there are more recommended candidates than open slots.
Lol, I was just about to point out the whole process is starting to resemble George Orwell's Animal Farm
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I'm wondering how many people will vote against the 'recommended' candidates just because they are 'recommended'.

-Ryan
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I'm wondering how many people will vote against the 'recommended' candidates just because they are 'recommended'.

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Not many. This tactic almost never fails to deliver the desired result. Which is why it was put in place to begin with. If MEC's members generally disliked this sort of manipulation they would not have passed the resolution allowing it. I think less than 9% opposed it, while it required a 75% majority to pass.

So far I've been wrong about an angle of this issue. I expected the MEC board would eliminate voting election of directors by reducing the number of candidates to the same as the number of open positions. That would allow election by acclamation without voting. So far that has not happened and it doesn't look very likely for the time being.
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I voted against last years resolutions, after finding out as much as I could. Getting information in "laymens terms" was pretty difficult from MEC and I leaned on the opinions of past MEC Directors, that I know and people posting on Club Tread for advice.
I wasn't blindingly following anyone's advice, but rather trying to understand MEC's resolutions as a BLINDED CO-OP member... or maybe that should rather read BLINDSIDED member. MEC is using methods of voter "herding" that I feel should be considered illegal in a democratic society.

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Well Gordie Howe called it "the mushroom treatment"-keep 'em in the dark and throw some manure on them once in a while
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Mick, you should post that in the hockey thread.
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