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post #46 of (permalink) Old 06-02-2011, 02:48 PM
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if you look up yellow rope it has a breaking strength of 1200-1500 depending on thickness.
Etc..


Polypropylene rope
5/16 -1710 -tensile strength

Product I.D. Diameter Circ. Put-up Tensile Strength* Weight
PPR14600 1/4" 3/4" 600' 1130 7.2
PPR141200 1/4" 3/4" 1200' 1130 14.4
PPR516600 5/16" 1" 600' 1710 10.8
PPR38600 3/8" 1-1/8" 600' 2440 17.0
PPR12600 1/2" 1-1/2" 600' 3780 28.0
PPR58600 5/8" 2" 600' 5600 45.0
PPR34600 3/4" 2-1/4" 600' 7650 64.0
PPR78600 7/8" 2-3/4" 600' 10400 90.0
PPR1600 1" 3" 600' 12600 108.0
PPR118600 1-1/8" 3-1/2" 600' 16500 143.0
PPR114600 1-1/4" 3-3/4" 600' 18900 162.0
PPR112600 1-1/2" 4-1/2" 600' 26800 231.0
PPR158600 1-5/8" 5" 600' 32400 286.0
PPR134600 1-3/4" 5-1/2" 600' 38800 354.0
PPR2600 2" 6" 600' 46800 414.0



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I wonder what that rope is made of or tied to??? or is this a light weight bear? determined bear though...
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When your campfire is smoking at it's best attempt to get the plastic bag smelling of smoke as best you can. Now the bear can't smell the food.........
I use Febreze.
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Gosh... I wanted to say something on the "etiquette thread" since it spilled onto another site I frequent, but it got locked, so I clicked on Baxter's profile to see what the fuss is all about, and my oh my, three out of four threads that this person has posted on have been locked...
Just a tinch too much poke poke...
No bullying here... but how bout a bitten finger, we'll let you wear gloves
Great name btw... used to have a neighbour with a choc lab named Baxter... great dog.
oh, yah, saw a sore point about dog owners, yeah my dog is kinda misbehaved at camp, so I'd be more concerned about her eating your food than bears [}]
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No bullying here... but how bout a bitten finger, we'll let you wear gloves
Hey ... there are many Canucks fans here!!! [V]

Seeing these photos again has made me a bit concerned for an upcoming Garibaldi trip with three new backpacking folks.
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Thanks for the tips!
Another wise idea is not keeping your food in your car.
As you can see in this video bears are entirely capable of stealing vehicles as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXqE-XROi78



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post #51 of (permalink) Old 06-12-2011, 03:40 PM
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Ridiculous if you don't know how a bear smells. First and foremost lets clarify something, I am not assuming anything about the readers this post is for information for those who have an interest in other things to think of when hanging your food in bear country.
Thanks for sharing your perspective and perhaps experience. I was going to try a combination of the two options mentioned and now I think I'll also consider utilizing any smoke smell for concealment purposes too.
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post #52 of (permalink) Old 06-13-2011, 06:26 AM
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You can save some time by planning your menu items. Take ham, bacon, certain cheeses, fish, sausage...all of which are commercially available already smoked. Or, you can smoke your provisions before hitting the trail.

That should do the trick...if you believe that smoke truly masks whatever is an attractant or a curiosity.

(I wonder if bears feed on carcasses of animals killed in forest fires...?)

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That should do the trick...if you believe that smoke truly masks whatever is an attractant or a curiosity.
One of the warnings I've seen about getting rid of uneaten food in the backcountry is NOT to put it into the fire, since burning it will carry the food smells downwind on the smoke and attract bears. Remember, their sense of smell is their strongest asset and they should have no problem distinguishing between the smell of wood buring and the smell of food cooking.

Like so many of Baxter's postings (like a big nose = a better sense of smell), this tells me his latest theory is also nonsense.
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post #54 of (permalink) Old 08-07-2011, 03:43 PM
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What a ridiculous thread.

Even if you were to successfully block all scent transmission, bears are not dumb. Habituated bears in particular (the ones most likely to engage in stunts like the one in the photos) seem to learn to associate even just the sight of any human-made container with a food reward, smell or no.

Redardless, most of these bears are just after a quick easy snack. While they might cut your trip short, I'm personally far more concerned about dangerous situations with non-habituated bears that has nothing to do with the smell or sight of my food. Startling mothers with cubs, predatory stalking, and the (thankfully very rare) downright crazy ones who just want to tear s*** up.
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post #55 of (permalink) Old 08-08-2011, 06:41 PM
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I'm with you dasbin
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